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Post by DAFORCE on Dec 7, 2007 9:30:45 GMT -5
WOW, you must be smoking crack to think Frank is honorable. He did a fine job with the O when Justin was their. He tried to undermine Phil who has a better football mind then Frank. That is why Phil is coaching in College. I was not happy when he did not show up for a couple of key games but I understood his loyalty was to Hope College first and the Force second.
Tokar had a whole lot more experience running an offense against top minor league teams. Frank messed with the WR's and was never honest with them . That is why Matt Wright quit and our punter--WR quit.
He stiffed Devon and messed with Reggie, he brought our two best DB's and tried to make them WR's and running backs.
He lied to Ty Starling. Lance told me he was at that Monday meetings at Frank's house when he told Hoss not to play Ty and cut him. Hoss did not and Ty was a value to us. That pissed Frank off. Frank shows Hoss his gratitude when the guy shows up to Ravens game sick as a dog and gets the defense fired up and in the right place to stuff the Ravens and he gets Frank's kid into college and Frank says thanks Hoss now get lost since I know more about football then you and the players like me more then you.
It showed in the Cleveland playoff game and Frank lets his boy the cancer Brian Mead act like a buffoon and rip on poor Homer and his wife. Then Frank lets Ted go because he thought he and Mead and Hooker and Reeves could get the troops fired up and teach us how to win against the Seminoles. We know how that fiasco turned out.
The Seminoles did not call Mo Meade or Shemp Hooker or Larry Reeves to come coach them. We know who Batman called and got for all the right reasons. Word is Frank did not handle it well that Ted is now the Head Coach of a great team that will only get better. Yes the Force will have a team and their will be some former team-mates that were great guys that will stay. Their will be no Phil or Tokar or Ryan from what I head about Ryan, no Tester or DP or Ernest or Clayton or the Lott guy who was a very good LB.
Don't know about Eddie but I heard that Nota and a few of the Lansing guys are going to Detroit. I hear Lance is hanging them up and I cannot speak for him on is thoughts on Frank but I know he was not a happy camper after what when on the last month. Frank is greedy and an ego maniac and has no people skills. He showed Ted his loyalty after he and Ted started the Force and told some of us he was trying to teach Ted a lesson.
He did, go work for a good guy and a very good organization that players will gravitate to because they now have good leadership that happen to be also good guys. Happy Holidays to the guys I played with, you were good team-mates and we had a great run while it lasted. But in closing do not come on this board and tell us what a great guy and good coach Frank Sherrod is. HE IS NEITHER.
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Post by Laffinsilli on Dec 7, 2007 10:11:32 GMT -5
LOL...daforce you are DAJOKE...LOL
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Post by Batman type tirade on Dec 7, 2007 10:16:38 GMT -5
You can spout what you think you know all you want but first and foremost I've already read this post 100 times so has everyone else. Come up with something new. Your unoriginality astounds me. Like I said, just a weak minded idiot that likes stiring the pot. Second and you can ask Homer since you like secret conversations.... Nothing was said to his wife. That's an outright mistruth. I too was on the sidelines. That was something that was spread after the fact. I was actually standing right next to the person that first said it. I didn't want to to do this because of kharma, and I apologize for insulting these guys, but oh well.. Ty starling was of no value to the team. He couldn't cover crap and was afraid to death of contact. ANYONE that thinks otherwise is lying. Second the DBs DP and McCrazy/McCrybaby (pick your unwitty name) were moved over to WR because they had NO playmakers left. Matt Wright did not quit because DBs were playing WR. That statment makes 0 sense. He was a starter regardless of the guy lined up on the other side. He was also the primary target regardless of who else played. Again just a mistruth and lie. Keep posting and I'll keep playing with you. However I should warn you my boyfriend is looking forward to the vegas trip and plans on holding you to it!  |
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Post by Another After Thought on Dec 7, 2007 10:23:08 GMT -5
Regarding Lance,
I also happened to hear conversations Lance had with Frank. While I wont reveal what was said I will tell you he didn't voice all this distain to Frank. That he apparently does to you. In fact what he was spouting was more in lines to what I heard Eddie doing. If he denies it I will quote him directly. and name the other guys that heard some of the comments he was making.
So is Lance lying to you or Frank.... I know its smoke and mirrors.
Of course he's lying to Frank.
Boy is every player on the Force a liar and hypocrite? I thought these were grown men? Is that what men do Coach Hoss? Or perhaps you just like making crap up on a message board?
Time will tell.
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Post by Clayton on Dec 7, 2007 10:24:53 GMT -5
What I don't understand is why everyone is still trying to hold onto this B.S.! Don't you people look forward to a NEW day and not the same old crap??? Why isn't there talk of getting better and improving and what not. Lets get this straight.....It's over! Plain and simple, last season isn't going to magically come back and fix it's self. there are no do overs. Just let this go and hit the weight room and be done with it. I know this comes from more than just the players, so everyone just move on.
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Post by force in 08 on Dec 7, 2007 11:12:58 GMT -5
well you mention ryan isnt playing. some say eddie isnt playing. both were at the workout wed
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Post by Laffinsilli on Dec 7, 2007 11:39:37 GMT -5
Heard Through the Rumor Mill,
Frank is actually paying the Seminoles to take said two individuals with the understanding that one of the individuals must be led to believe he has total control and the other that he alone will get players into college ball. Hmm...that Frank guy really is sneeky.
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Post by Im Laughen on Dec 7, 2007 13:29:44 GMT -5
Heard Through the Rumor Mill, Frank is actually paying the Seminoles to take said two individuals with the understanding that one of the individuals must be led to believe he has total control and the other that he alone will get players into college ball. Hmm...that Frank guy really is sneeky. Now that's some funny stuff right there, I don't care who you are! |
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Post by ugh ok on Dec 7, 2007 13:44:45 GMT -5
ryan was there but when asked what he was doing he said his intentions were to be with the blaze. he told me as well he would rather drive 2 hours to start than to go ten minutes to watch football. he was told he would start by brian a month or so ago but they seem to be not holding to that because when he said that they didnt tell him he would start. so my guess ryan wears orange and black next year. this could be sad because with the o line being depleted they will need a mobile qb
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Post by The Truth on Dec 7, 2007 15:25:07 GMT -5
You can spout what you think you know all you want but first and foremost I've already read this post 100 times so has everyone else. Come up with something new. Your unoriginality astounds me. Like I said, just a weak minded idiot that likes stiring the pot. Second and you can ask Homer since you like secret conversations.... Nothing was said to his wife. That's an outright mistruth. I too was on the sidelines. That was something that was spread after the fact. I was actually standing right next to the person that first said it. I didn't want to to do this because of kharma, and I apologize for insulting these guys, but oh well.. Ty starling was of no value to the team. He couldn't cover crap and was afraid to death of contact. ANYONE that thinks otherwise is lying. Second the DBs DP and McCrazy/McCrybaby (pick your unwitty name) were moved over to WR because they had NO playmakers left. Matt Wright did not quit because DBs were playing WR. That statment makes 0 sense. He was a starter regardless of the guy lined up on the other side. He was also the primary target regardless of who else played. Again just a mistruth and lie. Keep posting and I'll keep playing with you. However I should warn you my boyfriend is looking forward to the vegas trip and plans on holding you to it! Meade, Actually Wright quit because the integrity of the team was gone. Snyder said it perfectly on the sideline at our last home game. he said "The Force are now officially a SEMI-PRO team". Before you came back, we did not conduct ourselves like a semi-pro team. Everybody was laughing at you that game, acting like you know football. Nobody will ever respect you or listen to you. We are grown men who have played football for years, I wouldn't even let my kid play for you, so what are you gonna tell me? |
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Post by ugh ok on Dec 7, 2007 15:28:17 GMT -5
ryan was there but when asked what he was doing he said his intentions were to be with the blaze. he told me as well he would rather drive 2 hours to start than to go ten minutes to watch football. he was told he would start by brian a month or so ago but they seem to be not holding to that because when he said that they didnt tell him he would start. so my guess ryan wears orange and black next year. this could be sad because with the o line being depleted they will need a mobile qb Ryan has 0 football experience anyway. He is not even a reliable backup. |
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Post by WOW on Dec 7, 2007 16:20:33 GMT -5
so supposedly the force D is gone and the o line and the qb's!!!! r the RB's and the WR's gone too?  |
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Post by elganned on Dec 7, 2007 16:21:41 GMT -5
You know, guys, this horse is DEAD. Why do you keep beating it?
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Post by ouch on Dec 7, 2007 17:22:27 GMT -5
thats harsh. considering he was right there with robert hunt and the seminoles with zero experience. and the offensive line was brutal against the noles that day and he still did fairly well. to me thats pretty harsh considering. he gets a few games in before that it may have been a different story. or if the line wasnt terrible. maybe he wont be a great starter right away, but i think he can be very solid. there was no backup in the league with more talent then him so to say hes not even that is just a low blow and you have no character
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Post by Joke on Dec 7, 2007 18:13:13 GMT -5
I've sat and watched this from a far and have never posted a thing cause my net access is extremely limited. But I was a first year player there and followed some friends there. It seemed like the place to be when I first got there, great guys, good ball, good system, stand up coaches. Well that all seemed to change in a hurry. Offensively the coaches egos couldn't get any bigger and they can call plays but there far from coaches. You make a suggestion to help the line improve and you basically told to F off. Saying things like they've always done it that way so leave it alone. Just cause that's how they do it doesn't make it the best way. Very limited in vision and ideas. The Egos grew and grew as the season went on. as far as D, you know the story. There is a mass exodus in GR, regardless of what these posts say there are people leaving with a quickness! Too bad as the Force seemed to be above and beyond, but a single mans ego brought it crumbling down. There is going to be an influx of players heading to the D and to the Creek. So sit back have fun and enjoy your up coming seasons, I'll hear about all this crap from the road.
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