toughest division in Michigan semi pro

[Just want to know]

wcw can!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please explain team by team who whould you buys beat

[Motown]

We can put all this to rest. I am sure Batman and our 2 new Coaches would be more then happy to schedule a couple of pre-seasons games with your top USFA teams for some good old competition. If memory serves me, we and the Ravens and the Force beat up the Diesels, Thunder and WCW and a few others. Games were not even close. So call Batman and Big Ted and they I am sure will arrange a couple of games next summer.

I wish anyone well that plays in any league but their is a big difference between the Ravens and The Noles and The Old Force and The Fire and the T-Wolves and Harden County compared to the top teams in the USFA. The Nole Nation will be just SICK with talent this year. We also have 2 guys that will have a major impact on our attitude and direction. 2008 will be The Ravens and The Noles and then Everyone else.

[you guys kill me]

motown you said it in your last post the noles and ravens, then everyone else. you are a two team league if the ravens or noles dont win no one else has a chance. how can you say that the league is tough, after noles and ravens no one else has a chance in h e l l of winning the league. the old mcfl was the stuff with the old noles, old lions, 2 years ago force now it is just a super team noles and the ravens. hardin county, the fire or a shell of their old self force know going into the new year there isnt a snow balls chance in h e l l they can win. no one is scared of the mcfl you guys put one leg on at a time like we all do. next season push your start date up with the others and see dont you get more teams. no one is truly scared just better to start early especially in the metro detroit area. this is cause no one can get a field that late in the city, and the ravens and noles can vouch for that. this years version of the mcfl will fall in comparison to ones of old and i believe it will slip further behind the nafl and closer to if not behind the much improved usfa. for the record the thunder, ads, and wcw could have competed for third place and thats makes them tougher, in your books?

[Clayton]

i don't think he was referring to the Noles and Ravens in context to the MCFL but more on a National Level. One of those teams going on to the Title game. Those teams couldn't have competed for for 3rd since that's about what the Force got. We beat the doors off of WCW, the thunder, and we destroyed the Racine Raiders while the Ads gave up a big game. So don't try and compare apples to oranges. It is what it is. Agree to disagree and let it be that. Cause no one from the MCFL is going to move up the start date and no one from any other league will play an MCFL team other than in preseason.

[Ads71]

Please leave us out of the pissing contests.

[QT]

Thats the point. Compete for third place. All that tells me is that teams feel more confident beating a lima team versus a raven or nole or force, or even harden county team. Watch out lima, they comin for dat head

[ForceO]

Semi Pro Football is like your High School prom date. They come and go and if it was a great experience like 2006 for me and many of the guys we will remember it forever. But if it was a bad date like the last month of the season then you just remember a few years down the road and say if I knew then what I know now.

When the Force was firing on all cylinder's like we were most of the year. We destroyed the Diesels and the Thunder and Racine and the WCW and the mighty Ravens. Sept 8th was no fluke. Nobody in the country could have beaten us that night. Tokar was on fire and our D was lights out. Ravens we could have played that game 10 times and the outcome would have been the same. Frank was 2 steps ahead of your D with Tokar and our D with Coach Hoss who called almost every play you ran and now he will be doing the same thing with the Seminoles with Ted.

Yes we had some weak teams in the MCFL but The Seminoles and the Ravens and the Lions and Harden County and the Force when everyone that was Coaching were on the same page were one of the 5 best teams in the country. I think our top 5 teams would have been top 5 or 7 in any league anywhere in the country.

Coach Clark, many of us respect you but you played a very demoralized Force team on Sept 22nd. Missing over 8 key starters,

No Ted or Hoss Coaching and we were lucky to get out of their with a W.

I think the USFA is headed in the right direction and the MCFL League leadership needs to get back on track or it will be a 3 team league with the Seminoles and the Ravens and Harden County. For the Record, I agree, Ravens you are the league Champs and Good Luck in Florida, you deserve to be their.

I think you better improve in 2008 because the Seminoles just took their team to a whole another level. Their Coaches are much better now and will out prepare your coaches and with the players they already have and you add DP and Todd Tester and Ronnie McCrae who I hope makes the Rampage and Ernest and a few of the Lions and some guys in Detroit that are going to play for them now. You USFA Teams, schedule a couple of Pre-Season games with the Seminoles or Ravens. It will be over by halftime.

I hope Frank explains himself to my old team-mates on why he let 2 great guys get away from us and he knows he can't beat the Seminoles or the Ravens now.
He will not have Justin or Matt Wright or Phil or Tokar or Tremaine or Reggie or 3 key lineman.

Most of the best players on D are gone. Great and good players will have heard of Frank's communication skills which destroyed the best young Franchise in the country. No way will he have the guts to Coach against Ted and Hoss. New players will have to deal with that and the other 3 guys who call themselves Coaches.

Ted and Hoss galvanized our team. They made it fun and treated players with respect and Ted always returned my calls. No one can get Frank to even get off an email. I will probably look at the Thunder or Blaze team. Can't travel to Detroit because of my job.

I hear Dolan who is a great guy and Grabowski and Mike Miller and maybe 5 to 8 guys will stay. But knowing how they like to play and competing and winning a National Title, going to a lower league is like going to the Prom with your cousin. It just won't be the same. To the Seminoles you are getting two guys that have the Passion and knowledge and both have great attitudes, I predict it will not be a pretty sight when you play those Seminoles in 2008. Can't wait to see the board in July when everyone that schedules the Seminoles and then gets waxed and you will be able to thank Frank-- for the good of the team-- Sherrod.

Frank we just wanted straight answers on why you destroyed a good thing in the Force. I wish everyone great things for you and your team in 2008 but if you think you are that good call the Ravens or the Seminoles and I am sure they will schedule that game against you. This Seminole team in 2008 is going to be a very scary and dangerous team. Happy New Year everyone that still plays because you love the game.

Heh Clayton, were are you playing in 2008.

[Clayton]

I'll either be with the Blaze or the Seminoles. Just have to wait it out and see what goes down. that drive for me could be nuts, from one side of the state to the other Just depends, I'm relaxing hitting the gym and getting ready to head to Europe for a vacation after the new year.

[are you sure]

elganned said:

The two proposed divisions so far are:

WFC North

Grand Rapids Thunder
Battle Creek Blaze
Lansing Steeldogs
Michigan Admirals
Motor City Soldiers

WFC Central

Macomb County Strength
Michigan Gators
Wayne County Wolverines
Lima Warriors

In the North division, I like the Admirals, though the Thunder will be a strong contender.

In the Central division, I have to go with Lima Warriors until someone proves me wrong.

One thing is certain: Both divisions are gonna be dog fights from the opening kickoff until the final whistle. Should be a heck of a season.[/quote

are you sure that this is the real division because lima left the mlfa because they was coming to michigan ever other weekend. i really do not think this is correct.

and how do you know this is for sure because it is not on the usfa web site or message board

[are you sure]

elganned said:

The two proposed divisions so far are:

WFC North

Grand Rapids Thunder
Battle Creek Blaze
Lansing Steeldogs
Michigan Admirals
Motor City Soldiers

WFC Central

Macomb County Strength
Michigan Gators
Wayne County Wolverines
Lima Warriors

In the North division, I like the Admirals, though the Thunder will be a strong contender.

In the Central division, I have to go with Lima Warriors until someone proves me wrong.

One thing is certain: Both divisions are gonna be dog fights from the opening kickoff until the final whistle. Should be a heck of a season.

are you sure that this is the real division because lima left the mlfa because they was coming to michigan ever other weekend. i really do not think this is correct.

and how do you know this is for sure because it is not on the usfa web site or message board and you are not a player or on a team are you just making this up

and lima player can reply if you want to.

[WTF]

Lima most likely will not be in that division. It will either be just the 8 Michigan teams making up the two divisions or the NW Ohio Raiders will get added to one of the divisions.

[Cmon]

you can say that no Michigan teams can beat the big two (or one) in the MCFL but you can also say that with the exception of the Ravens, Noles, and maybe Wolverines that there are no teams in the MCFL that would beat by the top 6 teams in the USFA and at least 3 of those Michigan Teams. Why hate on the Warriors, you can not say that the MCFL is a better league anymore. You can argue that the top team in the MCFL is perhaps the best team in the Midwest but you are just blowing smoke till the top teams meet.

[Ring Maker]

Cmon said:

you can say that no Michigan teams can beat the big two (or one) in the MCFL but you can also say that with the exception of the Ravens, Noles, and maybe Wolverines that there are no teams in the MCFL that would beat by the top 6 teams in the USFA and at least 3 of those Michigan Teams. Why hate on the Warriors, you can not say that the MCFL is a better league anymore. You can argue that the top team in the MCFL is perhaps the best team in the Midwest but you are just blowing smoke till the top teams meet.

Who exactly are the Top 6 teams in the USFA now??
You did make a good point in reference to the MCFL in that there is a rather large drop off after the top 3 now, but I believe the Bulls (at home anyway),Fire and potentially the Mustangs could could beat any 2007 USFA team other than Lima.

I would not feel comfortable prognosticating on some of the new additions for 2008 yet, but my feel is that the top teams in the USFA would still be competing for 4th on down.

[elganned]

are said:

elganned said:

The two proposed divisions so far are:

WFC North

Grand Rapids Thunder
Battle Creek Blaze
Lansing Steeldogs
Michigan Admirals
Motor City Soldiers

WFC Central

Macomb County Strength
Michigan Gators
Wayne County Wolverines
Lima Warriors

In the North division, I like the Admirals, though the Thunder will be a strong contender.

In the Central division, I have to go with Lima Warriors until someone proves me wrong.

One thing is certain: Both divisions are gonna be dog fights from the opening kickoff until the final whistle. Should be a heck of a season.

are you sure that this is the real division because lima left the mlfa because they was coming to michigan ever other weekend. i really do not think this is correct.

and how do you know this is for sure because it is not on the usfa web site or message board and you are not a player or on a team are you just making this up

and lima player can reply if you want to.

Yes, I was quite sure at the time this was posted. Here is the thread on the USFA message board where these divisions were proposed: usfa.proboards40.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1197936964

Since then, the Commissioner of the league has changed the allignment somewhat. Here is the thread where the new (likely final) division make-up is listed: usfa.proboards40.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1199142912

By this it is can be seen that WTF is probably correct; the current line-up looks like this:

WFC NORTH

• Michigan Admirals
  
• Grand Rapids Thunder
  
• Battle Creek Blaze
  
• Lansing Steeldogs
  

WFC CENTRAL

• Macomb County Strength
  
• Wayne County Wolverines
  
• Michigan Gators
  
• Motor City Soldiers
  

WFC SOUTH

• Lima Warriors
  
• NWO Raiders
  
• Ada Dark Knights
  
• Ohio Outlawz
  
• Mt. Carmel Fire
  

This has Lima in the WFC South with several other Ohio teams, while the North and Central divisions contain the Michigan teams. Frankly, this makes more sense to me.

Considering the new alignment, I think I would go with the Wolverines in the Central and the Admirals in the North. Lima, of course, remains the team to beat in the South.

[ridiculous]

can somebody explain to me why it matters what league is better and all of that. football is football. if yall dont want to play it regardless of what team or league affiliation do not play it. you bastards make a soap opera out of everything. whooo cccaaarreeesss, except somebody that has nothing to do with there time. you wonder why game turnouts suck. because some of yall act just like semi pro, no professionalism. its 2008 fellas, can we get on some football talk. arguing about what semi pro league is better is not football. oh yeah, the semi pro league that is better is the one that is paying players. mcfl, no, nafl, maybe, glfl, never, usfa, probably not. so quit yall b.i.t.c.h.i.n.g.